Aug 13, 2008, 11:30 PM // 23:30
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#681
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: May 2007
Location: WA
Guild: DH
Profession: Rt/
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Well then, I've been trying to run this build against Jaya Bluffs Tengu in NM, Krytan Tengu and Tusked Howlers in HM.
I follow your directions to a T, yet I still die, seemingly out of nowhere. I don't think the build itself is bad, but I'm having a horrid time getting the hang of it. Also, the slow downtime between fights is sucking out my will to play. I've got to say that this is the most stressful farming build I've ever used...then again, I've never 55'ed before.
That being said, I do want to run this effectively because I put a lot of work into gathering components, capturing skills, etc.
Last edited by -Makai-; Aug 13, 2008 at 11:37 PM // 23:37..
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Aug 14, 2008, 01:58 AM // 01:58
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#682
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: TN
Guild: Semi Automatic Bananas [SEMI]
Profession: R/Mo
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Don't know if anyone has tried it but I realized you can kill the kuunavang that drop the Archaic Maul from the DaW Contest. Just stay away from the boss he's too much of a pain.
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Aug 14, 2008, 02:58 PM // 14:58
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#683
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Indian Township, ME
Guild: Nativ War Party (NWP)
Profession: Rt/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sante_Kelm
Well then, I've been trying to run this build against Jaya Bluffs Tengu in NM, Krytan Tengu and Tusked Howlers in HM.
I follow your directions to a T, yet I still die, seemingly out of nowhere. I don't think the build itself is bad, but I'm having a horrid time getting the hang of it. Also, the slow downtime between fights is sucking out my will to play. I've got to say that this is the most stressful farming build I've ever used...then again, I've never 55'ed before.
That being said, I do want to run this effectively because I put a lot of work into gathering components, capturing skills, etc.
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Well any invinci build is kinda difficult to understand and use if you don't have much farming experience. Spirit Bonding is actually harder than 55'n.
First thing, you don't farm anything in Normal Mode with Spirit Bond, thats your first problem. Second, is those Tengu in Jaya Bluffs are hard to kill and the necros have skills that can kill you, so I don't recommend you farm there just yet. I recommend trying to practice against some easier enemies before takin on bigger mobs, or enemies with spells. Practice the build outside Marketplace, you can farm Jade Brotherhood Knights pretty easily...
Always farm in Hard Mode, especially on Newb islands... If you are in NM on a newb island, the enemies are only lvl 5-12 and won't even come close to doing enough damage to trigger Spirit Bond. Another thing, study the skills to get a better understanding of them and how they work, and find out why HM is usually needed... also you will understand why you need the lowest armor rating possible.... If you don't fully understand how all the skills work, especially spirit bond, then you won't know how to use them correctly. Once you get used to Spirit Bond, you will have no problems with the build, depending on enemies you are farming of course. Just don't get discouraged :P
Contact me in game and ill help you out, give you alittle lesson on using it. I've done it plenty of times before with people that were having problems, and they all caught on within a few minutes. my IGN= Rez Dogg
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Originally Posted by unkleanone
Don't know if anyone has tried it but I realized you can kill the kuunavang that drop the Archaic Maul from the DaW Contest. Just stay away from the boss he's too much of a pain.
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Yeah I did, but they have alot of interrupts (Savage Slash), which they tend to spam like crazy if you aggro too many... but im sure if you only take acouple on at a time, you should be all set.
Last edited by ReZDoGG; Sep 14, 2008 at 06:11 PM // 18:11..
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Aug 30, 2008, 01:29 PM // 13:29
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#684
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: The internet, mostly.
Profession: Mo/
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Getting annoyed here, trying to kill Yeti's outside...somewhere. Going for rt boss green.
10% of 330 = 33 = No spirit bond, PS is used in conjunction with VwK I assume?
How I do I even stay alive with 100+ damage mobs, without VwK? Possibly manage 1-2 VW before dying.
Last edited by Ragu; Aug 30, 2008 at 01:31 PM // 13:31..
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Aug 30, 2008, 04:50 PM // 16:50
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#685
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Indian Township, ME
Guild: Nativ War Party (NWP)
Profession: Rt/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragu
Getting annoyed here, trying to kill Yeti's outside...somewhere. Going for rt boss green.
10% of 330 = 33 = No spirit bond, PS is used in conjunction with VwK I assume?
How I do I even stay alive with 100+ damage mobs, without VwK? Possibly manage 1-2 VW before dying.
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Like any other invinci build, you keep Protective Spirit up at all times... Spirit Bond is to keep you alive anytime you need it. Most of the time you won't need to use Spirit Bond while VwK is in use, and mainly only use it while Vwk is recharging or while gathering enemies. Spirit Bond triggers before PS, but you will actually only take 33 damage of course, but still get healed from Spirit Bond... You gain 47hp each time Spirit Bond is triggerred, and that is more than enough to stay alive and counter any kind of degen. Only time you need Spirit Bond while VwK is in use, is if there are spells or skills that are not triggering VwK... Any damage from Spells or AoE won't trigger VwK of course, since the enemy actually has to hit you to steal life from them. This is not much of a problem at all though, just use Spirit Bond anytime you need to keep your health up. Also, make sure you have 15AL and that you are farming in Hard Mode to avoid any complications with Spirit Bond triggering. Some enemies, sometimes even in Hard Mode, don't do enough damage to trigger Spirit Bond... This mainly happens in Normal Mode, and only a few enemies in HM. I have a big list of enemies that are possible to farm, be sure to check it out.
Well, hope you get everything worked out... shouldn't have any problems with the build. I've taught people (that really haven't solo farmed before, or just a plain newb) how to use this build, and once I showed them, they caught on pretty quickly... Once you understand the skills, you should be all set. Spirit Bond is actually the only skill that can be difficult to use and understand, everything else is pretty simple. It is a Spirit Bond build, so of course Spirit Bond is one of the most important skills, without it, the build just won't work. If you don't have Spirit Bond, check out my 105hp Rt/Mo builds.
Last edited by ReZDoGG; Aug 30, 2008 at 05:08 PM // 17:08..
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Sep 05, 2008, 05:59 AM // 05:59
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#686
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Indian Township, ME
Guild: Nativ War Party (NWP)
Profession: Rt/Mo
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Update: I found a new farming area! It is pretty good. It uses the M.O.X quest line to farm the "P.O.X" mission in Marketplace. I am currently farming it right now, and I plan on making a video as soon as possible. Just doing a few test runs to get the run down good. It has alot of assassins! best thing about it, you farm Disguised as a Jade Brotherhood, can't get any better than that. New missions/quest = Possible New farms. so far im liking this quest, just checking see how far I can farm into the mission. Will add video probably tomorrow, be sure to check it out. Only negative thing is, there is disabling interrupts from Elite Rangers. Possible to avoid, but dead if you can't. Once you kill them though, ur all set. Jus cast everything before aggro, and use Pain Inverter on them.
Last edited by ReZDoGG; Sep 05, 2008 at 06:10 AM // 06:10..
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Sep 05, 2008, 11:43 AM // 11:43
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#687
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Feb 2006
Guild: Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]
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Sounds interesting; what kind of items do you see dropping on average? Anything to write home about?
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Jan 12, 2009, 03:19 PM // 15:19
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#688
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Dec 2005
Guild: White Mantle Legends
Profession: Mo/E
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low AL rating?
hey, it may just be being very dumb but I have a question: why the need for the lowest armor rating? I don't get it? :S I'm thinking if you have more armor, you take less damage... no? o_O
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Jan 12, 2009, 04:45 PM // 16:45
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#689
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jun 2008
Guild: [DL] Desolation Lords
Profession: E/R
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Its for spirit bond, read it then u will know
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Jan 17, 2009, 08:36 PM // 20:36
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#690
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jun 2005
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Annatar Hunn
hey, it may just be being very dumb but I have a question: why the need for the lowest armor rating? I don't get it? :S I'm thinking if you have more armor, you take less damage... no? o_O
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You need to take enough damage for [[spirit bond] to trigger. The amount of damage you're taking will be limited by [[protective spirit], you don't need extra armor to stay alive, you need the healing.
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Feb 01, 2009, 05:48 PM // 17:48
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#691
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Apr 2007
Profession: Rt/
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What are some of the best places to farm in cantha besides the luxon sins and minister cho's estate?
thanks
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Feb 01, 2009, 06:00 PM // 18:00
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#692
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Nov 2007
Profession: Rt/
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Originally Posted by infamous16
What are some of the best places to farm in cantha besides the luxon sins and minister cho's estate?
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I like Kapppa just outside Gyalan Hatchery in Maishang Hills (don't use Retribution here though 1dmg output.. better replace it with a PvE-skill).
Another spot is from Maatu Keep to Pongmei Valley the Stone Kirin and the assassin boss.
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Feb 01, 2009, 06:12 PM // 18:12
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#693
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Apr 2007
Profession: Rt/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Teknikaali
I like Kapppa just outside Gyalan Hatchery in Maishang Hills (don't use Retribution here though 1dmg output.. better replace it with a PvE-skill).
Another spot is from Maatu Keep to Pongmei Valley the Stone Kirin and the assassin boss.
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and how many times do you think you can farm an area before the drops start getting worse?
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Feb 01, 2009, 08:30 PM // 20:30
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#694
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: NY
Guild: RaiN
Profession: Rt/
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^^That hasnt been happening for almost 2 years now
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Feb 01, 2009, 09:00 PM // 21:00
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#695
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Apr 2007
Profession: Rt/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elite Bushido
^^That hasnt been happening for almost 2 years now
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lol well i played 2 years ago so that is why.
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May 28, 2009, 02:56 PM // 14:56
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#696
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: May 2009
Guild: The Zodiac Order
Profession: Rt/Mo
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Hey dude i cant seem 2 get 10 on protection prayers iv done everything u sed on the armour requirments what else m i doing wrong can u plz help me
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May 28, 2009, 05:27 PM // 17:27
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#698
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: NY
Guild: RaiN
Profession: Rt/
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yea, usually people miss the second quest
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May 28, 2009, 09:11 PM // 21:11
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#699
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: May 2009
Guild: The Zodiac Order
Profession: Rt/Mo
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Originally Posted by Blaze Thirteen
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hey fanxs for that i ddnt have a clue about those two quest fanxs for ur help
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Sep 08, 2009, 07:31 AM // 07:31
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#700
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: University of St. Andrews, Scotland
Guild: Follow The Reaper (FTR)
Profession: R/Mo
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Hey guys, I'm not too sure if this matters, but is there a specific weapon that works best with this build?
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